considering the current state of the world and things like the resurgence of fascism and other authoritarian ideologies, do you think there is still a chance to avoid a new world war or now is unavoidable?
We’re already in it. There are currently 57 conflicts in the world, of which several are international. Things will escalate. World tension is rising, the far right is on the rise, it’s the 1930’s all over again. Or at least, in some parts of the world. In other parts it’s already the 1940’s, with totalitarian regimes, genocide and concentration camps.
It started in 2014 so yeah. We are just not yet to a point where America gets directly involved. We are doing the lend lease thing again.
Came here to say the same thing. Both US and EU: “this is not real, this is not a real war”.
In their delusion, are helping Ukraine, but it’s a half-ass help. How should a war look to be called a war? Tanks, Aircraft, ships, 1000km trench warfare, ballistic missiles - is that a war?Proxy war != world war
no, nobody’s stupid enough to take on NATO
Hopefully NATO isn’t stupid enough to take on anyone either
NATO has only ever started a war in Bosnia/Kosovo so I too hope they keep their cool
Didn’t they start wars in Iraq and Libya too?
Iraq was led by the US with few partners and was a huge mistake.
Libya was a UN sponsored brief air/missile strikes to try to stem a horrible civil war but yeah that was NATO and didn’t end well either. Probably should have been a larger operation with peace keepers.
Okay so NATO waits until a NATO member or members start something, then they join?
usually, but if the UN approves they will get involved
Not so long as nuclear weapons exist. I don’t think any country is reckless enough to risk a nuclear exchange, and that won’t change until the stress from climate change changes the math.
Climate change is there though. It’s not yet reached the “death by the millions” point, but that point being inevitable now, a nation could start thinking about the potential benefits from being the first to strike.
The biggest issue is extremism on both sides of the political spectrum. Division and hate are extremely easy to stoke and the left is at least as complicit. Unless people change their mindset to and remove the barriers they put up between people, conflict will be inevitable.
The right: “I think we should deport anyone with brown skin, incarcerate the LGBT community until they learn to stay closeted, execute black people without trial and force raped children to give birth, all the while gutting environmental protections, welfare and anything else that might cost my rich friends money”
The left: “Then you’re a cunt”
You: Both sides so divisive!
You’re part of the problem till you can step back and understand others opinions. Generally people mean well.
So what opinion does the right have that is worth taking seriously?
Oddly they have some arguments that the hard left would agree with normally if it wasnt so polarised.
For example critical race theory would say institutional racism caused disparity right? So is institutional racism bad? Or just bad if it preferences a race you prefer?
Yep, you’ve outed yourself. Better luck next time.
Empathy, trying to understand others, reasonable discourse…look into them mate 👍
Oh I understand those far-right “others” just fine. They’re all the abusive partners, parents and bullys we’ve all known. The ones who will torture their own family members for doing something, anything, without their unpredictable stamp of approval. The ones who eagerly twist and lie and manipulate people to get what they want, saying vapid shit about “empathy and understanding” that they have no intention of following themselves.
The Republican party is indefensible and by extension, so are those that support them, from Fox News all the way down to fuckstains at the local bar. They’ve made themselves a shining beacon for the worst people in America and I’m comfortable writing every single one of them off.
Because if they were actually capable of empathy, understanding or reasonable discourse, they wouldn’t be far-right in the first place.
The worst people you know vote and have social media.
Can you describe the extremism left of spectrum?
Honest question, not JAQing off, and I won’t jump down your throat no matter what you say.
Hmmm can you describe the extremism of the right? Perhaps you’d characterise it by racism, violence, and repression of certain people?
The hard left wants exactly the same thing, with the same violent methods, just slightly changed racism and repression.
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