I’m sure the secret service is absolutely thrilled complicit with his horseshit

This is literally how we’ll get to “but brawndo gots what plants crave?”

One of the biggest things is that the “deep state”, an innocuous thing turned into a convenient boogeyman by trump, will be quietly destroyed. This is the thing that actually keep your mail arriving, your food edible and your children’s toys not coated in lead. The “deep state”, meaning actual subject matter experts doing their jobs throughout entire government for years, regardless of current administration, are all going to be replaced by kid rock and vaping young republicans fresh from dropping out of their second semester in at The University of Southern Alabama State.

That’s who’s going to be the dude inspecting your meat for e.coli and signing off on the clinical trials for your perception meds - Gunner, Hunter and Ryder.

Really don’t think anyone is considering the reality of how deeply fucked we’re going to be as we’re all fixed fully on the front door for obvious signs of trouble (immediate societal decay), while these broken cartoon villains fill the crawlspace with fertilizer and gasoline and kick in the backdoor with flamethrowers in hand.

We’re fucked, and we’re going to be focused on monitoring the wrong indicators of how fucked, until it is just beyond any repair within any of our lifetimes. For example, you’re going to have FIVE fundamentally broken people on the Supreme Court for the rest of your life. It’s over.

And the “deep state”, meaning actual subject matter experts doing their jobs throughout government for years, regardless of current administration, are all going to be replaced by kid rock and vaping young republicans fresh from dropping out of their second semester in at The University of Southern Alabama State.

That’s who’s going to be the dude inspecting your meat for e.coli and signing off on the clinical trials for you’ve perception meds - Gunner, Hunter and Ryder.

Really don’t think anyone is considering the reality of how deeply fucked we’re going to be looking at the front door for obvious signs of trouble, while they leaf the crawlspace with fertilizer and gasoline and kick in the backdoor with flamethrowers in hand.

Depends… will it generate shareholder value?

Plenty of responsibility for elmo, but don’t remove shared blame from the many layers of individual greedy cowards beyond that who used this as convenient cover to approve changes in their own org’s designs. Anything to make their extra pennies and not pass any of those savings on to the consumer (also so much easier to enable subscription car features, can’t make a physical button disappear over the air)

I just want a coffee table book with pictures of these stupid executive’s faces who approved the original all touchscreen versions that were becoming ubiquitous.

Again. Nobody is being dishonest here. This is brutal honesty about the reality of trump. He wasn’t properly punished for his “Beer Hall Putsch” last time, his follow-up is in a few months - hitler’s follow-up after not being properly punished was… significant. This is worth taking seriously.

IMO (formed in our brief exchange) you’re operating with a pre-trump mindset from, frankly, a position of privilege. Women are literally dying, they are actively planning to round up people that they “feel” “seem” to be “illegals”. Democracy is threatened after 250 years of survival. Respectfully, WAKE THE FUCK UP, FRIEND.

“They go low, we go high” WAS the noble, idealist position of the last election, notice they aren’t saying it now. Walz is now calling musk a “goofy dipshit”, because the other side isn’t listening to professional, courteous decorum - THEY ARE LITERALLY BANNING LITERATURE AND REWRITING HISTORY IN TEXTBOOKS. Again, your position is “nice” but seems fully informed by a privileged position, removed from direct threat from the things that are ACTUALLY happening today.

You’re actively investing energy into laundering his horseshit here. You’re in the bottom right corner of the TV screen translating his accelerating fascist rhetoric into “calm down, everyone”. You should ask yourself why you’re doing those things.

Again, in the context of trump, it’s a threat on her life. He’s a chicken shit coward that mostly speaks in dog whistles and always carefully falls on that line of plausible deniability. For many others, you might give them the benefit of the doubt, NOT for trump.

The next day he said if people wanted to shoot him at a rally (where of course, his own supporters try to shoot him), they should shoot through the Press Corps and he’d be okay with that… You want to catch your breath and start defending that one now as well.

Easier for you to struggle to wrap it up with a tidy bow and keep it simple like that. So you feel in control and not as scared. You seem like a “you know I could be president, I just don’t want to” sort of person.

You overlook, casually, the endless complexity of this moment and a decision to forcefully take him into custody in what? some sort of extrajudicial action, I imagine you’re implying? No mention of the several trials looking to hold him accountable that were filed long before the election and delayed into limbo by trump and his gangs corrupt manipulation of the lower courts and SCOTUS. So now, if you “put him in jail” and say he’s “not allowed to run” he still wins, because that’s all his defective sycophants need to start slitting the throats of anyone they suspect is “a trans” on sight at the walmart.

It’s not satisfying, but they are betting on the American people defeating him soundly enough in a democratic vote that they just can’t deny (inside, they’ll still cry fraud and all that, but inside they’ll know) what an unpopular loser he is. We’re fucked either way, at least for awhile, there will be "aftershocks"and drawn out challenge horseshit if he loses by large margins, maybe another flailing coup attempt, but it will pop some balloons if they have to see daddy take another L in his line of many Ls.

“I hate trump, but…”

“I hate elon, but…”

“Look, in the last got to defend trump, but”

These aren’t the statements of people that hate these monsters. These are the beginnings of statements of apologists working to soften the blow.

He threatened her. No integrity in your statement. Even if you needed to classify threats on a spectrum, this registers in several spots on that spectrum, regardless of your attempt to spin here. This was decidedly a threat, even without context of who trump is, but ESPECIALLY with that context.

You just acknowledging the blanket false claims, generalized “lies” and that framing is laundering their false premise. You conceding some sort of an equivalence and saying “so what, she lied” is further laundering their BS. If this wasn’t intentional, I’ll hear you out, but you need to then know that you’re being used as a puppet here then and unintentionally parroting what they’d like you to be saying. And, you should go add a note to your original post clarifying, if you’re sincere.

I will ask you this, “What do you ACTUALLY know here?” You mentioned lies about fracking, sincerely, what are you referencing there? If you don’t have specifics at hand, and you have to now scramble to look something up and double down, time to admit, again even if unintentionally, you are laundering republican bs.

Here I’ll help you:

• Harris did not make her personal position on fracking clear during her only debate in 2020, the general election’s VP debate against then-VP Mike Pence (of “Hang Mike Pence” fame)

• Harris never explicitly stated a personal position on fracking during that debate. She said that Biden, running for president with her supporting as VP, would not ban fracking if he was elected president.

• During the 2020 VP debate, Harris said, “Joe Biden will not end fracking,” and “I will repeat, and the American people know, that Joe Biden will not ban fracking.”

• Back before that VP debate, When Harris was actually running in the presidential primary on her own and could reference her own views on fracking directly, the furthest she came was “there’s no question I’m in favor of banning fracking.”

There is no promise there. No lie told since. You can be in favor of something that isn’t politically feasible at a time, or feel you personally have more to learn. You can say something akin to, “that sounds like the right thing to do, but I’ll need to think about it more” that’s the measured stance of a thinking person.

So what was the lie there? Or again, were you laundering the republican’s bs propaganda to try to normalize the idea that " EVERYBODY just lies, man… so trump ain’t so bad I guess…" - intentionally or unintentionally.

I hesitated there, thanks. Do you feel confident with that spelling in this instance? Knew it felt off, but was sort of swimming in my head trying to decipher proper and didn’t want to stop to look it up at that moment.

Envy your measured preparation. Hope it won’t be needed.

The purpose of your post is to “beg the question” and launder a false premise that “she lies” as if the Republicans had any meaningful claims to make in that area. They don’t. Your core position here is flawed.

Yes, trump is worse on all accounts. Always. Put him next to just about any living human being, save for the ones who’s pants he drools on, he’s worse. Without anything close to an equivalence.

So you just riding the wave, heading for the hills? Sounds like you are convinced this will happen, not arguing that it won’t. If this is your reality right now, curious what that means, if anything, for your day to day life at the moment? Extra locks on door? Stockpiling ammo? Or do you think it will be more of a slow professional “business” fascism as we all continue to boil in the pot?

Genuinely curious what the folks who are 100% convinced today that we’re beyond fucked and society is crumbling in two weeks either way, are doing at this moment (when they can still “prepare” mentally, financially, etc.)

“Please you monsters, just pay, our children are getting older, and it’s time they moved out and bought their OWN islands off Seattle!”

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Probably, for as long as you feel persecuted at least- Provides relief for the perpetual guilt you feel carrying that ignorance around day to day and displaying it with such unearned pride (a facade that every person you attempt to “own” sees right through without a second of hesitation).

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I don’t sound angry. It’s the internet, there isn’t sound in posted text? It seems you must just read everything in your head with an assumed angry tone applied, because maybe you are a perpetual victim who thinks the world is against them?

Lose users…

Loseusers…

Losers.