If feel like this community could use a bot that comments the following on every post:
- Sail the high seas
- Switch to Linux
Delete facebook, hit the gym.
They “Recalled” it!.. :P
“Recall, Recall, Recall~”
“When you hear the crunch, you’re there.”
Yup, total recall.
Whoops, forgot to add more bloat
- Microsoft, probably
Why does it have a picture of Google’s CEO?
Because I hadn’t had my coffee yet.
I’ll fix it and make one with Tim Cook on my lunch break.
He took 24H2 for a test drive and they stole his identity
At the tail end of last week, Microsoft finally admitted – as it pulled 24H2 from the Release Preview Channel – that the Recall feature, which takes a snapshot of whatever is on the user’s screen every few seconds, was going to need some changes before the preview ships on June 18.
Presumably to minimize exposure while they add the announced security band-aids?
So… while I have you guys here, how do we feel about iOS having just announced basically the same feature? We angy about that one too or nah?
I mean, joking aside, I’m genuinely curious about what the reaction is going to be. On paper it’s a very similar concept, but it feels like routing it through Siri and not surfacing the stored data will legitimately kill some of the creepy factor even if what’s happening behind the scenes is very similar.
people generally probably hate the iOS integration just because it’s another AI product, but they’re fundamentally different. the problem with Recall isn’t the AI, it’s the trove of extra data that gets collected that you normally wouldn’t save to disk whereas the iOS features are only accessing existing data that you give it access to.
from my perspective this is a pretty good use case for “AI” and about as good as you can do privacy wise, if their claims pan out. most features use existing data that is user controlled and local models, and it’s pretty explicit about when it’s reaching out to the cloud.
this data is already accessible by services on your phone or exists in iCloud. if you don’t trust that infrastructure already then of course you don’t want this feature. you know how you can search for pictures of people in Photos? that’s the terrifying cLoUD Ai looking through your pictures and classifying them. this feature actually moves a lot of that semantic search on device, which is inherently more private.
of course it does make access to that data easier, so if someone could unlock your device they could potentially get access to sensitive data with simple prompts like “nudes plz”, but you should have layers of security on more sensitive stuff like bank or social accounts that would keep Siri from reading it. likely Siri won’t be able to get access to app data unless it’s specified via their API.
The fans will lap it up and all those Apple YouTubers will gush about how Apple’s new invention is the best invention ever. Apple has the advantage of owning a cult.
I disagree, I think Apple will do this feature with privacy/security in mind which Microsoft didn’t do.
I absolutely don’t like Apple but I think it’s undeniable that they try to keep their OS secure. It’s still a golden prison but at least it takes privacy fairly seriously.
Microsoft didn’t seem to think about the challenges of that feature and it looks like a draft from an intern after a 1 hour meeting.
Obviously, something that scan a user screen has some implications that are hard to miss.
So yeah it’s easy to point at people and say they are fanboys. But in this case the fanboys would be probably right in the sense that Apple already did better than Microsoft when it comes to privacy.
At the end of the day both are businesses that you shouldn’t trust with your data but I would trust a lot more Apple than Microsoft for doing this right.
Just Say No To crApple has been my attitude towards them for years and their latest moves will not change that one tiny bit.
I’m pretty mad about the iOS “upgrade” too.
I bet they’ve come up with a new way to convince people to switch to Linux
Vista was going to make everybody go Linux. Then Windows 8. Then Windows 11 requirements. Then Recall…
Let’s me honest. Average Joe doesn’t understand or care.
Right now for 75% of users it’s less work to install Linux than Windows, with all the crap people does to avoid TPM, Microsoft account, edge…
It’s also still relatively easy to tinker with windows to remove things you don’t like while still getting to use all of your software. Linux requires a lot of tinkering too but it’s so that you can use your software in the first place. It’s easier for me to tinker to eventually remove bloat and disable features I don’t use than it is for me to have to tinker to use my software and features in the first place.
lol too late, I’m on Linux, my server runs Linux, my dads on Linux, and later today my wife will be on Linux.
I love how Apple is flying under the radar, doing effectively the same thing, because they used the word “Private” in every heading and server name
Wrong. In the keynote, they announced that the server handling all this will be open source and anyone can analyse the code for exactly the malicious behaviour that Microsoft is pushing.
I’m not an Apple shill, but at least this they handled much better than MS
