Tesla has finally released Full Self-Driving (FSD) for the Cybertruck to Tesla employees and Early Access Testers with update 2024.32.20.

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    2 months ago

    Supervised Full Self-Driving (FSD)

    sounds like an oxymoron

    i noticed they didnt use any of the industry standard terminology (autonomous driving level)

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      As long as the “driver” is responsible in case of a crash and not the manufacturer of the car, it will stay supervised no matter what the underlying tech is. “But your honour, I wasn’t paying any attention, it was the autonomous car that drove over the kid” is not a valid defence.

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        2 months ago

        Except it has been advertised as full self driving for about a decade now, and Elon Musk has even claimed it’s safer than a human driver, because it doesn’t lose concentration or attention.

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          elon is claiming this with the same hubris as the idiot submersible guy who was so cheap he killed himself… ignoring all industry standards to claim he knows better

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            God, wouldn’t that be some karma if musk got killed by one of his own cars on ‘autopilot’

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            2 months ago

            Exactly, but more than that, they both ignore(d) testing, that showed it wasn’t safe!!!

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        That was exactly the point. There are quite a number of cars with actual self-driving technology, where the driver is not responsible. Or if there is no driver.

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          2 months ago

          How is this downvoted? It’s a correct response to a false claim: "no matter what the underlying tech is. "
          The post responded to is basically nonsensical.

          Also this part:

          As long as the “driver” is responsible in case of a crash and not the manufacturer of the car, it will stay supervised

          If this was changed to “it must stay supervised” It would make more sense.

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            2 months ago

            Because it is a legal question, not a technological one.
            Now, I don’t know if the for example US traffic law has a tickbox somewhere a manufacturer can go and mark that they will take full responsibility in case of any accident and it will never be the result or liability of the owner/“driver” of the car, but until it does exist there is only supervised self driving, no matter how well or poorly it actually functions or what it does.

            Even the current robotaxi endeavours are just one major fatal accident away from grinding to a halt when the courts start figuring out who in the chain from insurer to owner to manufacturer and every worker and designer who has even remotely touched the project is actually responsible for that death.

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    The thing that is ILLEGALLY called Full Self Driving!
    Because it’s not actually FSD, but ASSISTED something something driving.
    Because calling it assisted full self driving is self contradictory, and should be illegal too.

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    That article screams “written by an AI”. It repeats itself so much, it’s like a kid trying to hit the 1k word requirement for an essay in high school English.

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    2 months ago

    It’s cool if these idiots want to waste their own lives, but why does my life and my homies need to be endangered?

    #bancars