i can see how this would be an interesting function. sadly, we’re, nowhere near an end user ready experience in any non corporate messenger. it very much still depends on how tech savvy the user and how good the admin is. until that changes I’m gonna unilaterally say no to reinventing any wheels and say fix the stuff we have before adding more functionality.

Its not more open source. It is at all. Signal is dependent on the backend which is as proprietary as bluesky. You can absolutely not self host it which technically binds you to the next single point of failure.

Some use open source alternatives since signal still has the off switch to your communication. I personally use matrix for over a year and its pretty good. But its not polished so you need patience and a good admin.

Hi there! I see you‘re spitting thruth again.

I have since gone with the programme for a couple months and developed some foss software, helped make foss software and tested some foss software.

The general impression I got from it was: most of it is used without any reciprocity of any kind. The bigger projects get some donations and some also get code.

But stomping new projects out of the ground is pretty much impossible that way because you will have to invest 100s of hours to test and program. Nothing you can do in a reasonable timeframe while having a day job and a life.

So yes, I think especially for projects south of a certain size, companies should pay. Dual licensing was mentioned once. Something like agpl + commercial license if someone wants to use it closed source. I dont think it covers general profit seeking intent though.

Have a good one.

im daily driving the pinetime on a postmarketos phone. it is glorious. but you kinda need to want to stick it to the man for maximum pleasure because thats whst youre doing. thats how it feels to me anyway.

I did quite some reading in my time, as I mentioned. The methods you are describing are riddled with ifs and buts. The reality is that even online systems arent hacked if they dont have obvious flaws like passwords in root ssh. on the other hand tools like john the ripper can break each and every common encryption given the right circumstances. Its no difference. Its all just marketing.

I‘m not that bad at rhetoric either but I avoid it when I can.

Your argument is empty. Privilege escalation attacks are plain old cves that get found, evaluated and fixed. You need access to the phone, mostly in an unlocked state to get anything to work like that, same as with a computer.

I know a couple of pen testers and I would definitely know if there were large differences between operating systems securitywise.

You do realize that this is bullshit, right?

Its typical fearmongering (in fact the same article too) that I have been sent a ton of times by low tech users that fanboy for graphene.

There is no such thing as „physical port attacks“. It also works very different on phones then on computers. You can for example use i2c on an iphone to crack it open which somewhat straightforward to do but still has zero implications for daily use. The linux apps are desktop apps and as such dont have any chance to get through all of the open source community‘s eyes undetected.

Its a completely backwards take that assumes using bad faith software written in the dark by proprietary vendors which just isnt real.

Fair enough. In bad times, that is true for me as well. But these times pass eventually. At least they always have in the past.

Feel free to elaborate. Everything I have read over my life (couple thousand pages I guess) suggestd that linux can be a lot more secure than windows and ios.

Because android. PostmarketOS is linux (based on alpine linux)

Same. I mostly try to be honest with myself as I found that copium rarely is helpful. We‘re in this mess now and we can either sulk or get going. I choose to get going day after day. Hows that for aspirational statements? :)

Being cynical and defeatist is a coping mechanism. Like racism, its a form of dealing with a continuously shitty situation while not addressing the real problem.

If you look at the small amount of people that drink 1000$ wine bottles for lunch while you‘re struggling to pay the rent, then you find the problem these cynics are unable to address.

What I really ask myself sometimes is why libraries and such things are not shared between the mobile OS community since they work on similar platforms. PostmarketOS has now implemented systemd afaik so I think a LOT of things will be similar.

Thats a lot of text to say „I‘m not interested in debate.“

I think its the wrong platform if you just want to push your ideas and takes and cant accept different opinions. A blog would be more fitting in that case.

And again, have a good one.

Awesome report! Thanks. For me on postmarketos its the following:

• bluetooth, mobile data, wifi, usb ethernet all work
• browsing, incl youtube and plex
• music, podcasts
• password manager

What doesnt work at all:

• cameras (is in the works but not functional rn)

What needs work:

• headset (mic works, headphones dont but that may be my phone) bluetooth headset works

If you would read the book, they explain the point you are trying to make in the first couple of pages.

You have your opinion of how stuff should be done. But that doesnt mean everyone else needs to do it your way. Thats how we got into this mess.

Also very good analogy in the book: if you vote or not is your decision, plain and simple. But voting takes a couple minutes on average. If you want change, you can hang up a poster or print some flyers or take a megaphone, depending on what you‘re comfortable with.

I come from a country where people used to be put in gas chambers because the responsibility didnt reach far enough down and right now, that same country is going that exact route again.

Thank you very much for reaponding! Awesome to read about your efforts and mobian as an OS. How would you describe the daily driveability (on its own and compared to postmarketos)?

If I‘m not completely mistaken, the chip is the same as on my oneplus6. I run postmarketOS/phosh but camera is dead for now. I dont have enough insight to grasp if its just a legal issue or more. I feel like the two projects are quite similar but the differences are hard to grasp really. Whats your background and do you have experience with postmarketos? How do you experience mobians installation and documentation?

Have a good one.

Great way to rid yourself of responsibility. Sadly, nothing ever got achieved by being smart. Doing things is what is necessary.

Therefore yes, billionaires must go, of course. But they wont go until we take action. So my point still stands. Read the book.