No? What did I say that made you think I’m a trump supporter? I’m criticizing folks for celebrating harm coming to their fellow Americans.

No? I’m honestly not sure I understand your question about the civil war. The parallel throws me off because the point I’m making is Dems are maybe not “just as racist” as Rs but the fact they’re proving latinos were seen as pawns to be used when the Dems platform was basically everything Rs wanted while Trump was in office (minus family separations. let me know if you think I’m totally off). There’s certainly parallels to the civil war, the Northerners absolutely did not like it when free black American citizens first started to move there when fleeing terrorism I’m the South. That’s how we got red-lining and the modern for-profit prison system.

I am absolutely not doing what you’re saying. Let me know how I came off that way. I’m trying to be as specific as possible here. People that are celebrating bad things happening to their fellow Americans. Stop. That’s it. That is gross, to me. I think it’s bad philosophy and atrocious politics. We’re not in a civil war, we’re discussing how our fellow citizens voted not how they shot at our kids. Wait, it’s not even that. We’re simply discussing Americans that didn’t know anything.

Here’s my silly accusatory question: Our people didn’t vote. Because of that we celebrate latinos being deported?

Wish this could be a light conversation. This is truly not that serious. It’s a chat on fuckin lemmy (imagine this place is huge one day. lol)

What exactly are you referring to? I’m saying I think it’s gross to celebrate bad things happening to people you disagree with. If my brother was happy that I was scammed, I’d think he’s a dick. If he later said he actually cared about me I’d remember him laughing.

I simply don’t see my fellow Americans as the enemy, I see them as people I disagree with. I see the wealthy people and the institutions that protect them as the enemy. Helping to divide poor people is very much against what I’d consider good politics

You’re saying leftist accelerationists are saying that? Weren’t they saying don’t vote/vote Trump because that will help people realize they need change or some bs like that? How did/does it seem like I’m saying that? What did I comment that caused you to have that assumption/reaction to what I was saying? The election’s over. Votes are cast. Let’s not be sore losers. Let’s talk. Let’s learn. Idk, back to basics time, to me. This is not the time to say I knew/know everything, no one better try to approach me with an alternative POV

That said, I get there’s a lot of pressure from bad actors testing literally everything we believe in.

I don’t understand what you’re saying. I’m trying to do the exact opposite of celebrating anyone’s misfortune. That’s kinda gross, to me

I know people that can’t even vote that are likely going to have to seriously consider what states they visit or worse. It’s wild that people that supposedly voted against it now support it because they want to feel good about themselves. Classic American shit, tbh

Lol. How brave /s

Show your true colors y’all! Finally, you can stop pretending you truly care about struggling Americans that don’t share the same values as you - coincidentally, exactly like your slightly more racist/white-supremacist neighbors

Hopefully we can at least admit rural folks are absolutely correct in feeling like we hate them. I mean, that still won’t win us any elections but it’s a step in the right direction - one towards a more honest party

Now tell us your thoughts on latinos that don’t agree with you. What do you hope happens to them?

Lotta libs soundin real fuckin evil lately

To be clear, I don’t think most of these folks fully understand the consequences of supporting fascist politicians. My imm. aunt startled me a bit yesterday when said something like democracy means gay people everywhere. I said that’s not true and “reminded” her democracy is a system of gov where citizens can vote, one where women weren’t previously able to participate in, nor black citizens.

Still, where does that leave us? No fuckin joke, we basically need to stop trying to use facts to reach certain folks. My understanding is that means we need to use emotions/emotional intelligence. How do we do that? Not sure. Many of us had to numb the fuck out to survive what we call American culture, so we’re really just barely learning

How do we now make Americans that kinda hate our guts, because of tons of propaganda, that we care about them and want to work with them to improve our nation? Most libs kinda do come off like they hate them, tbf

Idk if that made sense. Kinda stuck rn

Do y’all talk to people day-to-day?

I hear a lot of anti immigrant rhetoric from my immigrant aunts and my more “trashy” or low-class friends (all kids of immigrants)

I’ve been saying this for more than a decade now, before bots became such a huge thing (I think), if YouTube comments are any reflection of the average person/American, we’re so beyond fucked. I absolutely do not practice cynicism

You’re both right.

Nazis had death camps, which are a type of concentration camp.

Concentration camps were what Americans had, when we imprisoned Japanese-American citizens. Apparently, Internment camps are concentration camps for “enemies” and supposedly not meant to imprison a country’s own citizens

It shouldn’t be hard to understand the benefit of this being confusing and who it benefits. It benefits the people that supported these unreasonable and racist actions and those that have profited off such actions economically and socially

Source, though I didn’t read everything

Idk, I’m bilingual and I only ever think in English. It doesn’t really seem to make a difference though, saying things out loud vs in my head.

I’m learning a third language now and can just barely communicate with others (worked with a taxi driver!). That said, I wouldn’t consider myself truly trilingual yet. I could think in that language but it doesn’t really feel like it changes anything - I still only know the same words in my head

It’s cheap

Interesting. I thought that was just in movies. lol

Ok, yeah I figured the same thing

That seems kinda fucked up. Why would you do something like that?

I mean, I at least get fucking with people for money. Doing it for fun, not so much

Also, anyone know what they meant with this line?

I still loved my life so I didn’t want to use the Google custom search API.

Some people simply don’t know how to be good friends. You really shouldn’t take it personal

I’ve just had to learn my closest friends simply aren’t capable of providing emotional connection like I’d like. I’m working on becoming a better friend to them, meeting them where they are , trying to figure out how to provide for and validate my own emotional needs, so I can eventually work up the courage, or whatever it is I need, to meet friends that are more emotionally mature enough to have the real connections I’m looking for

I once delayed a party where I had tons of family over because my friends hadn’t arrived. They didn’t get there until like 10 or something, after I’d already told them to just fuck off. The thing is, they are my friends and they legit care about me in their own (weird to me) ways. I’ve just come to realize they’ve got legit issues, as I do (part of why we’re drawn to being friends), that they’re working on to varying degrees, and I simply can’t expect more from them than they’re capable of giving

Good luck finding a chill healthy tribe of folks that shares similar values to your own!

Yeah, idk. They’ll show the important scenes. Just not entirely or anything. lol

I was mostly joking but it’s def an option. It works if you just want the jist of the story and don’t really care about the acting or basically anything else

Have you tried watching movie recaps on youtube? It’s the other extreme but i find it good enough for movies I’ll never see. There’s lots of movies I’ve seen there I’m glad I didn’t watch for a full hour. Most movies have tons of similar tropes you can easily understand in like a 15 min sentence

You’re definitely not wrong that hurting profits is good leverage. It might actually be the best tool we have

I don’t remember where I heard it recently, but we really need to bring back the slogan “no taxation without representation”

Millennials barely have representation and gen z has maybe one representative. The US was legit founded by mostly young people. It’s nuts to see the contrast to today. It’s not even exaggerating to say this nation hates it’s younger citizens

Edit: grammars

Would that work for literally anything we/nations use government for though?

“The government won’t prevent companies polluting the environment, so just assume it’s every individual citizen’s responsibility” “the gov won’t ensure food is safe to eat, so just follow these tiktok channels because it’s ultimately your responsibility to know what companies are putting in the food you eat” or “the gov won’t protect consumers from unfair business practices so just don’t support companies that are have a monopoly in your area” (this last one clearly ain’t working and consumers clearly can’t do anything; thinking of Comcast or Ticketmaster here). Personally, I think the EPA, FDA and antitrust laws are as necessary as any other basic laws (along with people to enforce those laws).

People making the claim that we don’t need government intervention, or saying private citizens should be held responsible, for government-sanctioned practices are either delusional/willfully ignorant or fake actors trying to shift responsibility from the government which literally has the power to enact legislation.

Imo, the biggest responsibility citizens have is to hold their government accountable. Most Americans legit think all politicians are evil and stupid which really just goes to show that they can’t tell the difference between someone trying to fight for companies to pay fair overtime/holiday pay and someone fighting for us to invest in another war err I mean defense

Fair enough. I still wish I could just accept the risk and click a button that forfeits my use of Microsoft support or something

I could totally get on board with that.

I’ll definitely do it once I work up the energy… or more likely Microsoft forces me to move. lol

I thought you were gonna make a joke about linux users having to fix some random issue that popped up on linux

Idk… it’s been a while since I used it and I always had issues that took hours to troubleshoot. lol