• Admiral Patrick@dubvee.org
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    2 months ago

    I’ve never heard of K1.

    Should we expect MariaDB enshittification to ensure?

    Strategic investment aims to accelerate MariaDB’s mission to deliver innovative, scalable database solutions with new executive leadership to drive the next phase of growth

    I’m not reading that as a “no” :(

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      MariaDB is actually two separate entities: The company MariaDB and the MariaDB organization. The company sells enterprise licenses and support, and the organization manages the actual development. So there’s a little separation that will at least slow the enshittification.

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        Ah, good to know.

        I did know there were two sides of it (we explored MariaDB Enterprise at work, but unfortunately it didn’t pan out).

        Any more, I just assume one company buying any other always results in a worse experience post-sale.

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          MariaDB tried to go public a while back and their stock price tanked immediately and never recovered. If they hadn’t gotten acquired I imagine they’d have gone out of business.

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      How the fuck do you “accelerate” something they are already achieving?

      Not sure how much of a future it can have even if you slap on some “speed”.

  • earmuff@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Well, who is using mysql/mariadb nowadays anyways? If you haven’t made the switch to at least postgres in the past 5 years, you messed up anyways.

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        Yeah the Open Source version. I doubt that the hosted version is using that. Cloud providers have super fast DB’s that are basically compatible with the MySQL syntax

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          There still is no documented way to migrate an existing WordPress to PostgreSQL. The PostgreSQL plugin assumes a fresh installation, everything else is not assumed to be there.

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      Nextcloud.

      Though I think it has some level of support for postgres by now. I should check on that.

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              The AIO docker image put together by the NC team uses postgres. That’s the recommended way to install NC now, and having used a multitude of methods in the decade I’ve uses nextcloud, I 100% recommend the AIO image.

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                Is there a minimum system requirements? I have bare metal nextcloud on a raspi 4, 4 GB ram, and it’s pretty snappy.

                I would consider migrating to the AIO version for more stability but IDK what toll the virtualization would take.

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                  The virtualization shouldn’t have a negative effect, since containers are just using the host kernel so it’s not much extra overhead.

                  I would give it a try, it’s simple enough to set up docker on the pi, turn off your native NC install, and add the docker compose file and stand it up. Or build another SD card with a fresh raspbian install and swap it out.

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        It’s worked on Postgres for several years now, and it’s the preferred and recommended backend for NC.

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    Unpopular opinion?: without wordpress, mysql/mariadb would have died years ago.

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      There were so many web apps written in the early 00s on the LAMP stack, including Facebook. And that’s not counting the tiny internal applications that so many businesses have that use MySQL/MariaDB. Because these are business critical applications, they pay Oracle/MariaDB for support.

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    Good news in furthering Postgres adoption I guess. I mean most stuff was going that way anyway, but this will likely speed things up.

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    Hummm… Can someone tell me if this is good news or bad news?

    Generally a buy-out is mostly bad news, but I can’t tell here in this specific case.

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        Okay thank you :). We will see after a few years I guess?

        It doesn’t look like an “emergency alarm” to switch over to another database. However, I was already thinking of switching every container to postgres. Maybe that’s the push needed.

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    I hope this won’t have any negative effects on PostgreSQL which will hopefully not have to cater the MySQL refugees now.

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        MySQL refugees = those who ran to MariaDB when MySQL was bought by 'Orrible and now need another new home. Accidentally, PostgreSQL has grown support for some of MySQL on recent versions.

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          Oracle is such a terrible company for their customers it makes a ton of sense to try to get them to switch to a less abusive company

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            Some of our customers rely on Oracle’s database system, because history. Sadly, we can’t teach them.

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              True, and I keep those folks in my prayers.

              But if you’re on MySQL it’s a lot less of a lift to switch to MariaDB than it is to go to Postgres, even if Postgres is better in some ways.

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                I rewrote the last remaining MySQL-based software of mine this year because I didn’t want to have MariaDB just for this one tool. Everything else had already been migrated. PostgreSQL is much faster in my tests.

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            My coworker used to work with Oracle at his last job, and he took an architect position at my company near the start of development. There’s a reason we use Postgres at our org…