If you lived on a border of a country that speaks different languages how is it chosen what language you speak? If you lived on the border do you just learn both languages?

Or is it more if you lived even like 500 meters of a border do you learn the language of the country your in? Do people choose it based on nearest popular city to where they’re at?

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    Such people are sometimes called Grenzemensch (border person). They grow up speaking multiple languages and don’t even realize til they’re older that the languages are different. They just think you have to talk to Uncle Fritz one way and Grandma Mireille a different way.

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        The trick is that in German it’s fine to just take several words and delete the spaces between them if they’re expressing a single concept. Like if in English, we took the concept of Germans having a word for everything and just called it Germanvocabulary

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          Another interesting aspect of this is that many of the German loanwords used in English rely on this fact without English speakers realizing it. For instance: Schadenfreude = “misfortune pleasure”, Zeitgeist = “time ghost”, and Doppelgänger = “double walker”.

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    Most people who live at the border tend to speak both, specially if people cross the border everyday to work

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    They speak what their parents and neighbors speak. This is constant even when borders shift.

    The formal language they conform to is the nearest administrative region, usually in the country controlling the town.

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    Language isn’t defined by borders. What people speak in an area is what they grew up speaking and have learned to speak.

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    Depends heavily on which border, I think. I live in eastern Austria and don’t know any Czech, Slovak or Hungarian despite those countries being within an hour’s drive of where I live. For the most part I expect people in Austria to speak German, I don’t expect people even in border villages of Czechia, Slovakia or Hungary to speak German; if they do, that is a nice surprise.

    Some years ago, in a border village in one of these countries, a child spoke to me in the local language; I tried speaking in German and English, but the child didn’t understand either, I could barely say “I don’t speak (your language)” in that language. Eventually I figured out he was trying to ask me how old I was, and I could show that on my fingers…

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    On the colombian brazilian border they speak a mixture of portuguese and spanish called portuñol.

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    You realize that speaking a language involves talking to another person, right?? So you speak what the interlocutor speaks in any given situation… and if both parties speak both equally well, then they generally speak a mix of both, based on whim or topic.

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    I live in Ottawa, ON, Canada which has Gatineau, Québec on the other side of the river. A lot of people here are bilingual and will just switch to whatever language works better for the person they’re talking to. The default language on the Québec side is French and the default on the Ontario side is English

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    I mean… Babies and small children don’t “choose” what language to learn, they just pick up whatever’s spoken regularly around them. So whatever their families and community speak, same as everyone else?

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    Depends on how much interaction there is qith the people across the border, but it’s common to know (not learn, since you naturally acquire it) both.

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    Or is it more if you lived even like 500 meters of a border do you learn the language of the country your in?

    That tends to be how it’s done. States tend to be rather protective of their official language, and it’s generally impractical to send your children to school in a different country. Being somewhat proficient in the other country’s language is quite common, but to truly be bilingual you pretty much need to be some kind of ethnic or religious minority.

    Also depends a lot on the relationship between the countries and languages; some borders are easier to cross, and some languages easier to learn.